Not sure how to respond

Warp Factor Nine:

From: THYAST
To: Vanguard Imperium [-93-]

The communications about spies well this just adds an interesting element to the team here.

Yes there are and no ther are not there are a lot of dynamics involved in eve.

However at some point members will need time to recover from isk losses in combat ops.
( save your opinions on this topic please to inside your corps only )
I do enjoy the Fleet ops lots of fun.

Here is what I am going to say though.
Pilot errors will happen eventually just as the factors of Human Error will always occur.

I myself will not give into a ransom notice nor fund anyone to keep being rewarded in negative behavior to have enough isk to just keep ransoming more and making the pilot that recieves the wealth stronger to continue the assault of any at all this is trivial information to the matters at hand.

Here is what I have to say about the ransom notice.
You want lots of isk?
Go get a job in RL and buy yourself some plex and stop behaving like some low life dirtbag street criminal than can work however makes the career choice to a life of crime.

Steal in eve?
well some people play using real money buying plex the legal side of that is not ethical thinking however yes this si a video game which requires payment to play.

Want more resources to play eve with?
Stop griefing people and earn it.
Threaten us to mke us appear weak?
I wont stand for it.

So here is what the alliance needs to know.

I do no know any of you well enough in your characters sheet training to not say this as i will to a college class of new first day 101 students.
So i will begin and do not bring your emotions into this short segment of information.

What is a terrorist?
ter·ror·ist
the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

What is coercion?

Coercion is the practice of forcing another party to behave in an involuntary manner (whether through action or inaction) by use of threats, rewards, or intimidation or some other form of pressure or force. In law, coercion is codified as the duress crime. Such actions are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in the desired way. Coercion may involve the actual infliction of physical pain/injury or psychological harm in order to enhance the credibility of a threat. The threat of further harm may lead to the cooperation or obedience of the person being coerced. Torture is one of the most extreme examples of coercion i.e. severe pain is inflicted until the victim provides the desired information.

Essentially using fear without basis to obtain wants and desires.

Do not fall into the psychological trap of fear paranoia and negative gossip which tears an allaince apart.

Even if this is a PVE Operation you can learn to work together as one massive fleet.

Ok Last part.

"SHIT MAN I HATE TO LOSE"
To lose is part of celebrating the winning
win all the time then you never have the joy an excitement of winning the victory!

Think ahead.
Plan ahead.
PVP loses ships to resource yourself ahead and plan things out ahead of time.

IS THE SPY READING THIS THYAST??
Possibly however no proof this is even being seen by a spy or that we have a real spy nor that the spy even exist.

Evidence is required to be obtain in an investigation however I am not too sure that anyone will really want to take the time to invest real life time into location some "ghost in the shell" black op.

Hey i lost SP GETING PODDED!!
Well eve is highly technical.
Update your clone and know where your medical facilitiesa re located to have your clone more available with a prefitted ship.
Eve with clone upgrading you can possibly encounter a random SP loss.

How is this working in eve andnot working in eve.
There is a feature called the help menu in eve.
Also there is a feature call CCP PETITION if you want to debate with the game gods about an issue.

Last segment.

This is a game of TEAM FOCUS.
Work together.
When there is any type of issue in corps or pilots please use your command structure or the chain of command to resolve the matters.
Leader ship needs to listen as they can however we are human behind a computer playing together over the interent in which that at any time a real world situation may occur.
Here have to give out a short list.

-POWER OUTAGE
-NETWORK FAILURE BEING INTERNET OR IN HOME ROUTER
-MASSIVE STORM TOSSING A TREE ON YOUR FRONT LAWN ( HAD THAT HAPPEN A FEW DAYS AGO )( IT WAS AIRBORN)
-FAMILY MATTERS BEING WIFE HUSBAND CHILDREN GIRLFRIEND BOYFRIEND FRONT DOOR NEEDS OT BE ANSWERED AN SO ON
-PC CRASHED
-EVE CLIENT CRASHED

So I think this states enough.

Other than the commander which already qualify for the fleet commanding.
Want to practice to train up for being a good FC?
Talk to me or others that are willing to train later on in eve as we are available.
Also by no means will Myself THYAST overrule and alliance commander in the chain of command. Please show the same level of respect.
At some time in the near future i do want to request a team meeting with the corp CEO's of the alliance to fleep up.
Details will be provided at the time only under the permissions of the alliance leadership and command structure.

--SEE ALL OF YOU SOON

OMFG THIS IS A WALL OF TEXT!!

Congrats to anyone that takes the time to read this message.
Replying to me in the evemail is not required.
work planning in the chain of command.
For the spy players?
Time will reveal you and you are already pointed known and tracked before your next move is even made.
You will never know how why when and what however know that you are already spotted tracked known and watched in eve anywhere you go.
You will ask for a how ponder on a what an whom is watching you an this you will never know or find out. So Spy good day to you and enjoy eve.

--FEPKA

Late last night the mail was sent out to the alliance, I think they are slowly searching for which corps I am in by kicking two or three that taunting me with somthing like this.  I have chosen to not respond to this in direct communications.  After my last shake up I think I am going to let the pot boil a bit before I turn up the heat a little more.

Vanguard damage control

After the upper leadership of TSI ignoring me I decided to contact the CEOs, diplos and recruitment officers  of every corp in vanguard in order to stop the blaitant disreguard for my presence.  This message went out...

Hello Ladies and Gentlemen

From: The Heimdall
To: Eruinka, NGoM, Tlenshar, Aloe, Bushido sith, THYAST, Fah q2, Sebroos, MongWen, Hoozy, Loiki Olumpus, Dominion5218, mr bowjangles, Sluggster, olusoji, Steve Ransom, Sawny Bean, Arialine, Mr Nash

As some of you on this list may be aware of my presence many of you are most likely not. Allow me to introduce myself, SIG Net is personaly responseable for assets belonging to your alliance and coalition being destroyed as well as providing sensitive information to Atlas. and other organizations. We are currently deeply entrenced in your alliance and have given the upper leadership ample time to respond to my demands. I fear that darenell and sawny do not take us seriously. allow me to divulge some of our work to you.

http://kb.fallenangelsalliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3080 We are directly responsable for this asset being destroyed

http://vanguard-imperium.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3726 also one of ours

http://vanguard-imperium.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3433 and again

the list goes on and on from small insignificant kills to the major ones above

Now let me direct you to the day we had Atlas. shooting at the station and we chased them ready to cyno in a capital fleet. Why do you think they ran away to where they did? Thats because I informed them of the jump limitations and our capabilities to fight them. They knew what we had and left just as we were ready to engage.

As you can see our work is not to be taken lightly and your allaince/coalition leadership continues to ignore the fact that we are here. I recently asked for 4 billion isk to end our operation and that offer still stands.

The way I see it Vanguard is now looking to wage a war against Atlas. in querious region and avoid the 0rphanage, with my agents firmly inplace inside the coalition I will see that you are unsuccesful. As I explained to Darenell and the sawny there are 3 ways this ends. I am bought off, my agents are kicked out or you all crumble and break.

I have yet to open channels with my contacts in AD0PT but if the leadership of vanguard and TSI continues to ignore me I will take steps to see that your lows sec safe spots are revealed and you are visited by the merc force that you are so desperatley trying to avoid.

Heed my wanring gentlemen, awaiting your reply darenell or sawny

The heimdell

I got an almost imediate response from a CEO from one of the corps laughing at me but allaince mail spelled a little diffrent story

ummmmmm. i think this person need to be primaried.  I then forwarded to him a copy of what he said in alliance mail.

Today darenell sends out this response to my little letter

Re: FW: Hello Ladies and Gentlemen

From: Darenell
To: Vanguard Imperium [-93-], Steve Ransom

I can't speak for the VI losses, however I love it when people claim responsibilty for losses they had nothing to do with.  The Fallen JF died due to pilot error as we knew that system was being camped as we had caught Atlas. scouting pos towers for just this purpose.

This guy CLAIMS he will go away for 4billion isk, however he won't, I've seen his type and this scam before.  He is likely sitting in a gank tempest in Jita on his main while watching nullsec goings on.  With our info being on evenews, he took an interest and started pulling kills out of our killboards as "proof" of his complication so that he can demand isk to leave us alone.
We all know there are spys in every alliance, shit happens, welcome to Eve.  However I don't intend to pay some griefer to leave us alone when he isn't doing much of anything other than breeding paranoia.

This is why I simply blocked him when he started on this crap in my personal mail, he got annoying with trying to convince me, without any proof, that he is a threat.

There are plans in place that this person has no idea of or else he wouldn't be asking us to pay him to "go away".
-daren

Once again TSI leadership has failed to see the threat and will once again pay dearly for the insolence

 

The Heimdall

The Vanguard bleeding begins... The hemorageing of corps

Afternoon Vanguard!

As you all know, Sawny and I decided to merge our two alliances into a single more powerful alliance which will utilize the strengths of both Vanguard and Fallen. Sawny and are going to jointly run the ‘new’ Vanguard, with Mong as our XO. Let me say that I always have an open door and if anyone has any need to talk, feel free to shoot me a message or evemail and I will hook up with you as soon as I am able. (Also if you send a convo and its rejected, nothing personal, it just means I’m busy or have it disabled for a while).

I made FALLEN a promise not that long ago, and I am going to make it to the rest of you now. As you are all aware, we’ve now been kicked out of Querious and have a dagger firmly in our backs compliments of Atlas and friends. I know that loosing our home that we worked for hurt, and I know that many people are trying to figure out what we are to do from here. I will make it simple: We are going to get revenge. Atlas has never been a very stable group, and we are going to push them into there own death. The same way we pushed Querious when it was IT controlled, the same way we broke other alliances wills to fight that lived in Querious. Nulli Secuda was so kind to name us, “The cockroaches of eve”, and we are going to live up to this name yet again. We will hit Querious when and where it is least expected, inflict damage, and vanish again before anyone can do anything about it. We WILL have lots of fun fights ahead, I promise you that. Once we have gotten revenge for the knife in our backs, we will look back at nullsec, and where a suitable home for us is. Perhaps we will move back to Querious, perhaps we will get a home elsewhere, I cannot say yet. It depends on how the politics play out, however, I can promise you that we will be living in nullsec again.

All of that is good, but what are we doing now? I hear that a lot when I talk to people. Right now, leadership is figuring out exactly how to structure the combined alliance, while we get all of the FALLEN corps into Vanguard. We are also looking to the future, as to what fleet types we should field, how our logistics should be placed, and how we can best do damage to our enemies with minimal risk to ourselves. While all this is underway, everyone should take a short breather, make some isk, pew pew if that’s what you enjoy doing, and get ready for the next stage of our combined future.
I have also heard a lot of people talking about how we have lost quite a few corporations recently and how that is hurting us. Let me tell you this. We may have lost corporations, some may have left with a bad taste in there mouth, some may not have been ready for nullsec, but those that have stayed have had the heart, the drive, and the passion to see this through and to grow stronger because of it. We will come out of this period stronger than ever.

Before the merger both Fallen and Vanguard had a bright future ahead. Both groups had strengths, and both groups had weaknesses. Part of the reason we decided on this merger, is Fallen and Vanguards strengths compliment each other and help eliminate the weaknesses of the other. I am well beyond excited at the future we will make for ourselves and am committed to making sure that we accomplish great things. This ‘setback’ is nothing more than a speedbump in the way of our future, one that we will easily overcome, and be stronger for the effort.

Vanguard Imperium. We have a future, we have a destiny. We will succeed where others have failed, and we will do so because of each and every one of you. Look at your alliance chat, these are more than just “friends”. These are blood brothers and sisters. Those that we have fought along side for our homes, those that have with us for our combined future. Soon it will be time to show Atlas how wrong they are in thinking that we have been beaten. Prepare yourself, and lets live up to our destiny. Let us make our future that which we deserve, and let us do it in a glorious fashion.

Darenell

A few days ago the alliance recives an attempt to raise morale and lay out the frame work for a counterstrike against Atlas.  The following incomming transmissions were recived shortly after

It's been over 5 years of constant Eve for me, I'm going to take a few months off and unsubscribe for a while.

Most of you guys are awesome, I've had a ton of fun flying with you all. Thanks for everyone's hard work, putting up with the occasonal one of my leeroy fleets, and showing up for up for the fun fleets as well. Most of you guys I like quite a bit, we've had a lot of fun, and I hope to fly with you when I get back.

Just want to be clear I don't have any personal issues or drama with anyone in alliance / leadership, etc, I think they are all great guys, and you all in the newly merged Vanguard/Fallen have a lot of good things ahead of you. Stick with it, this will be a great group to be with moving forward.

I'm obvously unfocused and unable to committ right now to any sort of leadership position for a large group like this so it's best for the group if I don't half-ass it so you all can get on with bigger and better things.

If anyone wants to reach me while I am unsubbed the next few months, mail me at XXXXXXXX@gmail.com

followed shortly by this one

To all
We at Suppression have been proud to serve with all of you. To all of you that have followed me on fleets I have FC’d Thank you for doing a great job. This is not good bye as we will still be around and hopefully friends. At this time it is in Suppression and Vanguards’ best interest if Suppression leaves. Thanks for the opportunity to fly and become friends with you all and I hope to fly again with you in the near future.
Nofearion
CEO Suppression Inc

then this one

ITS BEEN FUN, ITS BEEN REAL

HAVE TO MOVE ON THOU FLY SAFE GENTS

we do not shoot those who were blue our policy has been an will be freindly until you start shooting.

current bullshit has lessoned our faith

if your insulted apology forwarded now,
respect is earned not given.

my door is open to convo


GHOST <out>
-1 FC -1 VET


and one more for good measure

Deer vangard

As of this moment in time the goals laid out for the aliance no longer compliment those of drr and as such drr will be leaving vangard it has been a pleasure flying whith u guys and who knows some time in the futer we could be back flying in the same circles

regards docs

From what I can see the flies or "cockroaches" are starting to drop dead.

As you can see Darenell think vanguard is able to stand upto Atlas. and he feels they are strong enough to engage them and win.  If you look at the kill boards Vanguard is now being pressured in high sec by the 0rphanage.  While trying to skirmish in 0.0 and low sec.  The fight that vanguard finds itself in is now being compounded by serious highsec pressure and poor leadership as well as several spies including myself activly working against them. 

I will once again send an offer to the leadership of Vanguard and offer my removal for an amount of isk that I feel is acceptable for my efforts and perhapps they can be persuaded this time.

The Heimdall

Merger Complete... Second Match Begins

Fallen Agnels alliance has officaly merged into Vanguard Imperium, I am still nustled in my corp allowing my to cause drama and annoy the leadership further.  Hopefully the new leadership is not nearly as stubborn as the last and understand the errors in which Fallen was led although my guess if being that they are operating under joint leadership I may be able to cause some head bumping here withing my new home. 

Looking at Kill boards yesterday I noticed that as I predicted Atlas. Has whacked Ihubs belonging to Everto and Vanguard.  It is now just a matter of time before these 2 alliances loose thier space to Atlas./Cascade, I poersonally do not think Atlas. or Cascade will take this space I forsee a 3rd party taking this and Allying themselves with Atlas and cascade, which in my opion would be down right stupid given thier past of back stabbing.

On a diffrent note the damn connection issues make the espionage trade very difficult. For the last 36 hours I have been unable to loginto the server getting the status unknown message.  The DDoSers have made heimy a little upset and I may begin to shake if I dont get my drama fix soon. 

The Heimdall

Merger.... This will be fun

Alliance merger

From: Darenell
To: Fallen Angels Alliance [FALL]

FYI

Fallen Angels and Vanguard Imperium will be merging shortly. We will be merging into Vanguard under the JOINT leadership of myself and Sawny Bean.
More info to follow.
Dare

Well it appears that Fallen and Vanguard want to allow me to entertain myself for the time being,  I would like the thank Sawny for giving me the ability continue my escipades and making it easier on me I can now relocate one of my agents to a diffrent case with these two alliances being put in one house.

And there we have it with the help of Atlas. the self proclaimed PL and IT slayers are disbanding and moving to a new banner.  With FALL now out of the way lets see who looses thier space in Querious now. Vanguard anyone?

The Heimdall

Official coalition wide evac issued

***GENERAL EVACUATION***

From: Darenell
To: Fallen Angels Alliance [FALL], Sawny Bean

Angels,

As you know Atlas. has cheated us twice in the past. Starting with convincing Delve Coalition to attack us, which was thwarted when they underhandedly worked to undermine Delve Coalition and we all found out about it. Then when going to -A- and lying about our participation against PL, when we worked to do as we were asked to do by Manny and Airdefence of Cascade Immenent. Fortinatly in that instance we were able to sitdown with -a- and provide proof we did indeed do as we were asked and we only lost a5 and q2.

Unfortinatly Atlas has come up with a new ploy, siting multiple reasons (depending on who you speak with) as to why they reset us. It boils down to this. The old TSI leader was removed after he repeatedly went AWOL with no warning, usually leaving us in a very bad situation. After being removed Tablaren was offered a lesser position of high importance and power both with his Alliance as well as within TSI, but he instead left. It is looking like he has gone to Atlas and members of Cascade, who he is close friends with, and decided to undermine TSI. I believe, as do other TSI leaders, this is the true reason to the attacks, and now assault on our sov.

While we are at war, you may be told that we "brag about taking PL single handedly", or "brag about destroying IT". I see this as the propganda Atlas and Cascade have used to rally troops against us. While we did take part in both wars, and we did play parts in these wars that were assigned to us, we clearly did not best either of these entities by ourselves. Please do not attempt to correct any propoganda or smack talk in local, to take it to local to do so, would only be llead to smack talking, something I refuse to do. If you have questions about exactly what our assigned roles were in both of these wars, please see your CEO or mail me directly and I will be glad to let you know.

While it is true, that we could likely defend ourselves against Atlas themselves. And perhaps even Cascade, at least while they are also deployed elsewhere with -A-, we cannot take on Atlas and Cascade combined. Unfortinatly our calls to our allies have fallen on deaf ears as they are either busy elsewhere, or have also reset us choosing, understandably, to back the larger more powerful side of Cascade/-A-/Atlas. As such, we are in a war that the outcome if very far from favorable.

Based on the rampant joint attacks staged against sov across TSI holdings today, we believe that without outside factors, we cannot win this war, and as such are ordering an evac or ALL non military assets. Be aware, we are NOT going to give in without a fight. But we are going to be forced to fight in our own way, and this means it will not be defensive. Every pilot needs to leave combat ships fitted and ready to fight, and every pilot who can fly covert ships (bombers and cloaky recons) needs to have several covert ships available. Please stage some ships in W-IX, some in A2 station, as well as some in lowsec and/or empire stations. Anyships left in nullsec from now on until we win or loose, are considered expendable military assets and will be treated as such.

Many of you have stood beside me in positions such as these in the past. You know what is expected and I know you will all live up to the challenges ahead. Many of you are new to sov and are likely confused as to what is going on and I can promise you, we have a hard time ahead of us. But look at your corp channels, look in alliance. These people are your brothers in arms. We live, we fight, and we die as a group. We will persevere and we will reach our potential, weither here or elsewhere. THis I promise you all.

We have done great things, and this is just a hurdle in the road to greater things.

Darenell
Executor - Fallen Angels Alliance
"We are the Fallen. We have been cast down out of the light of the heavens, but we will bide our time and enact our vengance. For we are the Fallen"

 

The TSI Death punch, Atlas attacks everything

In Northern Querious, Atlas has deployed multiple SBU's in the W-IX pocket and have put stations located in W-IX and A2-V into reinforce, all of FALL's space is currently vunerable and not being defended.  Fallen and Vanguard have issued evac orders to high sec for all assets.  Darenell is still unable to stop the bleeding and it looks like Atlas/Cascade fleets are deploying caps and supercaps on the field now.  TSI has not been able to muster any sort of  resitance other then the small roaming cruiser dessy fleets.  TSI's last CTA called for 100+ pilots only 43 showed up with the willingness to fight once again showing the upper leadership is unable to hold the coalition together with any sort of consitancy.  Atlas is now being assisted by the TSI defector corp Krysis which stabbed the coalition in the back at almost the same time Atlas unleased the dogs of war.  TSI intel channels are now filled with childish whineing and bitching. 

There are supposely plans to mount a counter offensive against Atlas in the comming weeks but I highly doubt that Darenell with his complete lack of leadership qualities will be able to raise moral and mount any sort of counter offensive.  These plans are being kept super secret to the point that only darenell's inner circle have been privied to this information.  My sources point to small guerilla type tactics using cov ops and black ops with possible capital support.  I seriouslt doubt that fallen or its allies have the ability to field a fleet capable of pushing back The current Atlas combat fleets.  They had over 200+ pilots hitting the stations in northern Querious last night.  With Atlas incapping all the jump bridges and 40+ pilots camping the gates out of the pockets, it looks like the only route of escape is via wormhole space. 

I expect to see Fallen space to belong to Atlas and its allies with the next 2 weeks, then they will turn thier heads to -93- and 666 space shortly after that producing the same results.  for the TSI they are attempting to fight a battle they cannont win and will bleed corps and members who would rather change sides then loose assets stuck in the W-Ix pocket.  This has already been seen with Krysis.

Further information points to me needing to make a correction Morsus Mihi appears to have settled into Delve and has begun shooting at Atlas but are not interfering with thier current operation. This could point to a small ray of hope for TSI but I see the Mihi leadership siding more with Atlas. and less with TSI, Atlas has far more to offer in experance and capabilities then TSI could, this would be the contributing factor for a possible NAP while Atlas purges the area of TSI.